RMT: A possible idea for LPFans worlds team Im helping him with

[Dimsunlight]

Togekiss@Lum Berry
252 HP/ 152 Sp.Def/106 Def.
Bold Nature
Serene Grace
~Follow Me
~Aura Sphere
~Air Slash
~Wish
This is generally support for Rotom. It Follow Me's against opposition, unless its smeargle; then, you aura sphere IMMEDIATELY against it, for fear that DV will take down your team. Its a real threat, considering the team is somewhat DV weakish.  However, this is mainly just support for Rotom-Lawnmower, so don't worry about it much. It is meant to die first turn against most stuff. Air Slash is there for STAB, and wish is for the turn before a precarious switch.
*Need an RNG'd one of these*


Rotom-Lawnmower@Light Clay
252 HP/252Sp.Def/6 Def
Calm Nature
Levitate
~Light Screen
~Reflect
~Thunderbolt
~Protect
This pokemon is a big part of the team; it sets up the all important defense, which is essential to the team. This carries Thunderbolt for general STAB, Light Screen/Reflect for the all important defenses, and Protect because its a staple. The given EVs and nature should let it survive special hits the best it can,  because they are so common. Levitate becoz levitating! Lawnmower because lawnmowers mow over foes and you get the option of leaf storm.
*Need an RNG'd one of these*


Groudon@Choice Scarf
252 Attack/252 Spe/6 HP
Jolly Nature
Drought
Moves:
~Earthquake
~Fire Punch
~Dragon Claw
~Rock Slide
This is the backbone of the team; it comes in after toge dies and attempts to sweep with EQ, since most flyers are taken care of by Rotom if he lived. If he cannot, then he switches out to switch moves. Whats great about Scarf Groudon is that no one thinks "Scarf Groudon!" until it outspeeds their Scarf Metagross or something. It is very large attack and defense wise, and with light screen, it can sponge special attacks too. If Reflect is up, Physical Attacks are just a bad idea. At least, when the opponent is using them. The key about this is that it is a huge threat with Dragon Claw and such, due to its awesome power, possibly being able to 2HKO/1HKO(not sure) opposing Haban and non Haban Palkias, putting a dent in Dialgas steel, making Scarfogre near useless... all while outspeeding them. Rock Slide for the flinch and stuff, since your outspeeding.
*Need this too!*


Giratina @Yache Berry
204 HP/122 Def/184
 Sp.Def
Calm Nature
Pressure
Moves:
~Substitute
~Calm Mind
~Shadow Ball
~Dragon Pulse
This? The backup plan. This thing is a total prick to kill when screen(s) are up, and sub/calm mind is very dangerous. Just sub, and start CMing. Then, bash away with Shadow Ball and Dragon Pulse, and keep up the stall to eventually beat the opponent. This is seriously a backup plan; the groudon is supposed to take out at least the opening pair when this comes out, and the second two shouldn't be a problem with screens up.
*Need this too!*

Alright guys, so comment and rate, we were trying for something they call somewhere "original". We hear it is an effective strategy.

[calm lava]

plan against follow me/ TR team?

[lucariojr]

I would personally keep Worlds teams secret. And with a Ghost out first, I would have Protect on the partner, but it seems Kiss has no room for such shenanigans, unless you deem Aura Sphere unworthy for a slot.

[Dimsunlight]

well, this is only an idea, and hes in the Junior Division so...

but anyway, CL,  you would immediately Aura Sphere(if its smeargle follow me-ing) and aim it at dialga just incase he isnt actually a follow me team (lolsigurd) and T-Bolt either way with Rotom at the suspected Follow-Me-er. then, TR is up, and togekiss is effective in TR, to an extent. Togekiss would probably or possibly Aura Sphere at the Dialga(Air Slash at a Palkia) and Rotom would finish off the follow Me-er if it wasn't dead and Rotom lived. In this case though, instead of sending out Groudon after the first KO, send in Giratina, and attempt to stall your way into the TR ending.

[Dimsunlight]

Did I not just lay out a detailed plan?

Anyway, if you guys think would like to actually help out a bit, that would be great! What I mean by that is to suggest ideas to help. For example, the backups could be a slow dialga and a slow snorlax, stuff like that.

[lucariojr]

Wait a second! You stole my old team's Screen/Sub CM 'Tina thing! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU BRO

Scarfdon+No Griseous Tina is generally a bad idea because you might get locked into EQ and bring down your own Giratina. And if you do use Sub CM, then you'd probably want Leftovers for recovery, especially since you say that you want to sacrifice your Wisher (wth?). Also, Light Clay is generally inferior to some other recovery item like Sitrus, as VGC does not last that long, and from what I've experienced with CM Tina, 4-5 turns is all it takes for your preliminary duke out to end and Tina gets at least a Sub and a Calm Mind in.

Also, what I see here is a big Blizzard weakness; 3 of your four Pokemon are weak to it. Even if you do get the sun to reduce the accuracy, Blizzard will probably still get one Pokemon hit. You might want to replace Togekiss and/or Groudon with something else (Togekiss really isn't drawing in anything big; Rotom is already immune to ALL Fake Outs thanks to Protect, and Groudon is... well, just there, it seems). I would give an example, but the creative juices just 'aint flowing tonight.

One last thing, Giratina is weak to other Giratina, along with Physical Pokemon and Abomasnow. Make sure your replacements can really lay down the law on such transgressors.

EDIT: Those EVs on Tina look specific. Explain?

[amarillo caballero]

Sorry Dimsun that was insipid of me. Anyway, I don't know the metagame in Juniors well enough. My first thought would be to make a counter Japan team. I'll come up with ideas when I'm less tired.

[Dimsunlight]

Yeah, I dunno either. From what I know, its very similar to seniors, so, ya know. I don't think that its much different at the highest level; I have a feeling worlds will be similar in difficulty to senior nats, but ya know, I dunno.

[BlueCookies]

Yeah, I dunno either. From what I know, its very similar to seniors, so, ya know. I don't think that its much different at the highest level; I have a feeling worlds will be similar in difficulty to senior nats, but ya know, I dunno.

Dimsun I thought you knew junior metagame, didn't you say you lost r2 in juniors lcq?

But anyway, I don't expect the junior worlds metagame to be like senior nats. It will probably be much worse. I immagine only the japanese juniors will really know what they're doing(And little brothers like Xerograde's brother, etc) so keeping it simple is the way to go imo. It's a unique team idea you have there, but I just can't see it working very well. The team seems based on CM Giratina sweep, and if they can counter it or get a crit it doesn't seem like the rest of the team can win.

[LPFan]

Hmm. The Juniors metagame is like they abuse rain and hail teams alot. Almost everyone uses kyogre and palkia in the finals. Ive battled too much of the same team in the nationals. Theres just too many of the common sweepers in the juniors. Ive seen some TR teams that run dialga alot, but I never see like cresselia or any other TR users. They just use kyogre alot. And heres something strange. Everyone who makes it to the finals uses a rain, TR or hail team. Too common...

[Dimsunlight]

Hey, blue, we are working on this>.<. But yeah, from what I see, they hardly use anything but TR Rain and hail.

[Temporal1]

Also, what I see here is a big Blizzard weakness; 3 of your four Pokemon are weak to it. Even if you do get the sun to reduce the accuracy, Blizzard will probably still get one Pokemon hit. You might want to replace Togekiss and/or Groudon with something else (Togekiss really isn't drawing in anything big; Rotom is already immune to ALL Fake Outs thanks to Protect, and Groudon is... well, just there, it seems). I would give an example, but the creative juices just 'aint flowing tonight.

 http://pokemon.marriland.com/diamond_pearl/team_builder/  This can help you find your weaknesses so that you don't catch a cold or something.

[lucariojr]

how'd it go bro

[Dimsunlight]

We ended up not using it. From what I  know, he used Ray/Top/Ogre/Aboma/Giratina/Blissey.

[BlueCookies]

we mean how did he do? I know 4 japanese juniors made top 4, but did he make top 8?